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Garbomaniac · Post by **Garbomaniac** » January 21st, 2009, 1:23 am

Rita Hayworth

Garbomaniac · Post by **Garbomaniac** » January 21st, 2009, 1:55 am

Gene Tierney

klondike · Post by **klondike** » January 21st, 2009, 8:55 am

Garb, that run you posted of the celestial Ava was absolutely breath-catching!
Pardon me while I roll my eyes back and slap my flippers- that woman is easy on the eye, and tough on the old logic center.

Garbomaniac · Post by **Garbomaniac** » January 21st, 2009, 4:49 pm

Ha! Well, that's what drove "ole blue eyes" to the brink of insanity! And, now that we all know what she was really like, she must have been one vexing female! Of course, he was no prize, either, puching every cameraman that looked at him cross-eyed!

knitwit45 · Post by **knitwit45** » January 21st, 2009, 8:12 pm

He also punched out a young admirer of hers, our own Vecchiolarry!

Garbomaniac · Post by **Garbomaniac** » January 21st, 2009, 9:35 pm

NO! Do tell!

knitwit45 · Post by **knitwit45** » January 21st, 2009, 9:44 pm

When Larry drops by to visit the Men's Room, I'm sure he will share all details. He was visiting Ms. Gardner on the set of "Showboat", I believe, and ol Frank didn't like the attention Larry was giving her. I think he was only a pre-teen, or maybe a early teens young man.

Vecchiolarry · Post by **Vecchiolarry** » January 21st, 2009, 9:59 pm

Hello James & Nancy,

Well, the punched out part is wrong but the rest is correct.
When I was 9, I visited "Show Boat" 3 times as the guest of Agnes Moorehed and hung out with Ava & the crew, swearing and playing poker. Ava taught me both pretty good.
When Frank Sinatra came on set, Ava payed more attention to me than him and this angered him. When Ava asked me to lunch and not him, he hit me on the back of the head and screamed, "Scram, kid"... Kathryn Grayson was horrified and bawled him out and he left. I went to lunch with all three - Ava, Agnes & Kathryn.
The last time I visited, he was there already and Ava made another big fuss over me and Frank hissed, "Beat it!" But I stayed and he pushed me down. Ava came over and dusted me off and I told her not to marry him and she said, "I know honey".. But Frank pushed me away again and Ava just said, "Run along, baby - Ava loves you!"...
That was the last I ever saw of Ava Gardner - although she sent me a nice 18th birthday card.... And, she did marry FS...

When Kathryn Grayson told Nell about these incidents, Nell floored him with a nice right 'sucker punch' and he landed on his ass.

Larry

knitwit45 · Post by **knitwit45** » January 21st, 2009, 10:46 pm

Hooray for Nell! I wish she'd hit him a little, no make that a LOT lower....... "punched out" or knocked to the ground...it still is violence against a child, and it should have been reported to the police.

Garbomaniac · Post by **Garbomaniac** » January 21st, 2009, 11:17 pm

Sheeez! Frank must have had some ego problems! Lucky for you you were a kid or else he probably would have belted you. And, Ava married him anyway. Well, you know things were different back then. "Men were men, and women were women." I supposed she liked that and hated it at the same time.

klondike · Post by **klondike** » January 21st, 2009, 11:55 pm

Man, Larry, I had to read your anecdote twice for it to sink in . . such events seem almost unbelievable, even by Hollywood standards.
How in the world could any grown man be jealous of a 9-yr-old boy?
Even if he did feel a tad miffed over being eclipsed by your presence, didn't it occur to him what effect displaying his pique would have on a straight-shooting firebrand like Ava?
Allow me to echo Nancy's sentiment: bravo for Nell!
I find the idea of an adult putting hands to a child in that way inexcusable, regardless of wealth, celebrity or era; had I been present, I would have hoisted Francis Albert by his lapels, shaken him 'til his teeth rattled and hung him on a coat rack.

Metry_Road · Post by **Metry_Road** » January 22nd, 2009, 11:12 am

Significant events in cinema history - The first lady.

Audrey Munson. The first (?) actress to appear fully nude in a mainstream movie (I specify mainstream as opposed to pornographic, stag, and nickelodeon peepshow movies). ‘Inspiration’ (1915).

Those of you in and around New York City can view and admire her likeness. She was the model for several statues to be found at various locations in NYC.

For her groundbreaking contribution to the cinematic arts, Audrey Munson has now been inducted into The Men’s Room hall of fame.

It was love at first sight. She was beautiful and mysterious, and I had to find out more about her. The story I found involved high culture in New York, spectacle in San Francisco, scandalous behavior in the nascent film industry, the leading lights of American Beaux Arts sculpture, murder, insanity, the U.S. dime and half-dollar, and sad and strange biography that I will remember for a long time.

Someone my age should have had more sense than to fall head over heels for a complete stranger. After all, there was the age difference —she was ninety years old— and besides that, it was obvious she had a heart of stone.

This lovely quote is from an article called ‘The Star Maiden’. It's about one mans search for Audrey Munson. It reads like the opening paragraphs of a time-crossed romance by Jack Finney. If there are any authors reading this and would like to develop this into a story, please do so, I would love to see the result. I'm tempted to do it myself, but I'm not a very good writer.

"Some of us drink because we're not poets" - Arthur

To read the entire article go to http://www.sweetandsourspectator.org/ar ... den_1.html

Best wishes

Metairie Road

charliechaplinfan · January 22nd, 2009, 3:34 pm

I've only just come across this thread, I thought it was a film I'd never heard of. I love the stills, I've always loved gazing on Hollywoods females done up to their very best. Ava Gardner has to have a special ention from me, she's so exotic and stunning. Shame on Frank, I love his voice but the man had problems.

mrsl wrote:Since I have no idea of how to post photos here, I wonder if someone could post side-by-side photos of Hedy Lamar and Vivien Leigh, both with flowing hair. The reason is this. Hedy was far lovelier than Vivien, one year younger and already working in Hollywood when the search for Scarlett started. I know every woman in H'wood tried out for the part, I wonder if Hedy did. I would really like to have a side-by-side twosome to investigate, and I think the guys could handle it. Scarlett was supposed to be so pretty and desirable that all the men wanted her, and I think Vivien's looks were kind of hard and rather stern, whereas Hedy was softer.

Anne

Anne, we disagree again, I think Vivien one of the most beautiful ladies who graced the screen, she didn't age that well. Her face had character and her personality had fire in it, her features are perfect. Different people see different things

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I'll check in regularly from now on

mrsl · Post by **mrsl** » January 22nd, 2009, 8:12 pm

CCFan:

In this type of site, disagreements make for fun and entertainment. I look forward to more 'agreeing to disagree' in the future.

I bet we find we also agree on a lot too.

Anne

Garbomaniac · Post by **Garbomaniac** » January 23rd, 2009, 12:24 am

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Joan Blondell

Constance Bennett

June Allyson

Virginia Mayo

Gloria DeHaven

Suzy Parker

Gina Lollabrigida

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Audrey Munson