The Silver Screen Oasis

TikiSoo wrote: ↑July 27th, 2023, 6:31 am

Hibi wrote: ↑July 25th, 2023, 1:29 pm I watched it but was unsure what got edited out. (snipped) Over 45 mins of schtick and commercials???

The Uninvited, like most mysteries & horror, is best seen without interruption to the story flow.
Anytime you watch a movie on TV your concentration of the story will be temporarily broken.

According to Wiki, The Uninvited is 98 minutes long.
Svengoolie's time slot is 150 minutes, which leaves 52 minutes for credits/schtick/commercials, so Hibi's not far off.

Bronxgirl, please enlighten us which crucial scenes were edited out.

I rarely watch any of Sven's segments aside from the song, if he has one, and the cast overview. I switch over or FF through commercials. I switched cable companies and lost picture in picture which I really miss as I could avoid so much junk. I have to be careful not to stay too long on another channel killing time during commercial breaks. i do enjoy his lead in jokes in the film sometimes.

Apparently Amazon sales of The Uninvited on DVD and Blu-ray have picked up since Saturday. I'm not going to defend Sven's schtick, but if the show helps introduce younger viewers to classic films that's got to be a plus. I assume you've met people who say they just can't watch black-and-white movies?

(And I haven't seen a Spawn of Svengoolie segment that wasn't seriously cringe-inducing. But Koz won't live forever, so the show ought to be thinking about succession and continuity.)

TikiSoo, the edited scenes were crucial not in terms of plot development but overall mood and flow. 1. Milland and Hussey go to Donald Crisp's house to describe the ghostly goings on 2. Scenes with Lizzie the maid 3. run-ins with the patients at Cornelia Otis Skinner's creepy institute

Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑July 27th, 2023, 10:30 pm TikiSoo, the edited scenes were crucial not in terms of plot development but overall mood and flow. 1. Milland and Hussey go to Donald Crisp's house to describe the ghostly goings on

I agree with your assessment about "mood & flow", it doesn't have to be a big incident or dialogue missing that makes a difference.
I do recall seeing the above scene, though. Crisp's charactor gets a bit annoyed/offended with their accusation.

2. Scenes with Lizzie the maid 3. run-ins with the patients at Cornelia Otis Skinner's creepy institute

Although there were scenes with Lizzie the Maid, her role did seem truncated, something was missing.
Do not recall the creepy institute, though.
Good call!

TikiSoo wrote: ↑July 28th, 2023, 5:39 am

Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑July 27th, 2023, 10:30 pm TikiSoo, the edited scenes were crucial not in terms of plot development but overall mood and flow. 1. Milland and Hussey go to Donald Crisp's house to describe the ghostly goings on

I agree with your assessment about "mood & flow", it doesn't have to be a big incident or dialogue missing that makes a difference.
I do recall seeing the above scene, though. Crisp's charactor gets a bit annoyed/offended with their accusation.

2. Scenes with Lizzie the maid 3. run-ins with the patients at Cornelia Otis Skinner's creepy institute

Although there were scenes with Lizzie the Maid, her role did seem truncated, something was missing.
Do not recall the creepy institute, though.
Good call!

In the Sven version the cat got more screen time than Lizzie the Maid! Since I love the film so much, I still ended up watching it.

Double edge sword for me; At least Sven showed a first-class film instead of the less than "B" films he often shows.

TikiSoo wrote: ↑July 28th, 2023, 5:39 am

Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑July 27th, 2023, 10:30 pm TikiSoo, the edited scenes were crucial not in terms of plot development but overall mood and flow. 1. Milland and Hussey go to Donald Crisp's house to describe the ghostly goings on

I agree with your assessment about "mood & flow", it doesn't have to be a big incident or dialogue missing that makes a difference.
I do recall seeing the above scene, though. Crisp's charactor gets a bit annoyed/offended with their accusation.

2. Scenes with Lizzie the maid 3. run-ins with the patients at Cornelia Otis Skinner's creepy institute

Although there were scenes with Lizzie the Maid, her role did seem truncated, something was missing.
Do not recall the creepy institute, though.
Good call!

Thanks, TikiSoo. Actually now that I think about it that scene with the Commander and the Fitzgeralds could be seen to advance the plot since (and I won't give spoilers for anyone who has never seen the film) it gives Crisp even more resolve to take matters into his own hands in order to protect Stella. As for #2 I should have added that Lizzie isn't just the maid but a beloved member of the Fitzgerald family going way back to when Rick and Pamela were children. Her edited scenes add warmth and texture to the Fitzgerald back story. "I'm sitting in your mother's chair in case anything happens", lines to that effect, also some other dialogue that reveal just how special and loyal this woman is. #3 abounds in whimsical grotesquery as Rick and Pam wait in the reception area of the institute in order to have a private conversation with Miss Holloway. They come across a "Miss Bird", one of the patients, who has her own special relationship with Cornelia, lol.

jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑July 28th, 2023, 10:10 am

TikiSoo wrote: ↑July 28th, 2023, 5:39 am

Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑July 27th, 2023, 10:30 pm TikiSoo, the edited scenes were crucial not in terms of plot development but overall mood and flow. 1. Milland and Hussey go to Donald Crisp's house to describe the ghostly goings on

I agree with your assessment about "mood & flow", it doesn't have to be a big incident or dialogue missing that makes a difference.
I do recall seeing the above scene, though. Crisp's charactor gets a bit annoyed/offended with their accusation.

2. Scenes with Lizzie the maid 3. run-ins with the patients at Cornelia Otis Skinner's creepy institute

Although there were scenes with Lizzie the Maid, her role did seem truncated, something was missing.
Do not recall the creepy institute, though.
Good call!

In the Sven version the cat got more screen time than Lizzie the Maid! Since I love the film so much, I still ended up watching it.

Double edge sword for me; At least Sven showed a first-class film instead of the less than "B" films he often shows.

Also Bobby the terrier, lol.

I don't want first class films on Svengoolie! I want schlock! Mind you, the "good" schlock.

I started wondering while watching it if perhaps Miss Holloway had only somehow met Mrs. Danvers (from another movie, of course), would they have finally found love and gone off to live happier lives together?

(...OR, would they have eventually come to resent the idea that the each of them were not nearly as beautiful as their respective first loves?)

Let's face it, the first Mrs. De Winter and Mary Meredith were world-class bitches!

Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑July 28th, 2023, 2:09 pm Let's face it, the first Mrs. De Winter and Mary Meredith were world-class bitches!

Can't disagree with that but between these two fine films I have always associated the characters of Mrs. Danvers and Miss Holloway.

Both are very devoted to the deceased, there is a strong lesbian vibe from each of them, and they are cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

I wonder if Danvers and Holloway could have been happy together in a lovely old thatched cottage next door to Miss Marple but then trouble might start if somebody like Diana Dors became a neighbor. (at least Jane had Mr. Stringer)

Last night was a Karloff movie I've never seen before, The Haunted Strangler '58. It was nicely photographed, Karloff was fun to watch but I was kind of confused by this kind of bland Jeckyl/Hyde story.
There is something to be said about the distractions of story flow because of the interruptions.

But I was finally rewarded seeing the Three Stooges episode I had been waiting for- MUTTS TO YOU! I was fascinated by the gloved hands washing the dog schtick.

TikiSoo wrote: ↑July 30th, 2023, 1:22 pm Last night was a Karloff movie I've never seen before, The Haunted Strangler '58. It was nicely photographed, Karloff was fun to watch but I was kind of confused by this kind of bland Jeckyl/Hyde story.
There is something to be said about the distractions of story flow because of the interruptions.

I didn't see it on Saturday, but I had seen it before. It was OK but the 1950s was not a good time for Karloff in the movies. He turned more to TV and stage work during this decade.

One thing that struck me about Haunted Strangler was that Karloff, although pushing 70 at this time, gave a real emotional, fairly energetic performance. In one scene, he was force fed some gruel and was stripped of his shirt while he sobs in protest.

This month on Svengoolie...

8/5: The Shadow Of The Cat (1961) w/ André Morell, Barbara Shelley, William Lucas, Freda Jackson and Conrad Phillips. And directed by John Gilling.

8/12: The Black Scorpion (1957) w/ Richard Denning, Mara Corday, Carlos Rivas and Mario Navarro. And special effects by Willis O'Brien and Pete Peterson.

8/19: Konga (1961) w/ Michael Gough, Margo Johns, Jess Conrad and Claire Gordon. Because you haven't had a chance to see this one since 3/18/2023!

8/26: War of the Colossal Beast (1958) w/ Sally Fraser, Roger Pace and Dean Parkin. And directed by Bert I. Gordon.