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JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 8:34 am
by CineMaven
JOAN CRAWFORD - MOVIE STAR

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She may or may not be some folks' cup of tea. But there's no denying this. She WAS a movie star in the full sense of the word. TCM will show the depth and breadth of her career from the 1920's until the 1970's, changing her look with the times. And as has happened to me before...I think I'll be re-discovering someone I think I already know. Maybe it can happen to you too.

Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 11:32 am
by ChiO
She definitely is my cup of tea. And what a kick-off with THE UNKNOWN -- one of my favorite Silents, my favorite Browning and my favorite Chaney.

I used the knife-throwing scene in a class as an example of Pre-Code & Horror eroticism. I think I was the only one who bought it...but at least I got to watch it...again.

Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 11:37 am
by moira finnie
Count me in as one of those people who finds herself undeniably interested in Crawford's films despite having seen them before, though I don't have any use for her later films (post-The Best of Everything are not something I ever wish to behold once again, though I have sometimes thought that Joan could have done well in more supporting roles). The entire run-down of movies on the TCM schedule for Joan Crawford's month can be seen here.

Of course there are the Essential Joans (the run of Warner Bros. doozies from the masterwork Mildred Pierce to the sublime Humoresque and along the tawdry Flamingo Road all the way down to This Woman is Dangerous are my go-to J.C. flicks for sheer, unalloyed entertainment), but some of the ones that I found were most revelatory and worth exploring for fun and insight were her late MGM movies, especially when I can change the plots in my head while watching them and gauge how tightly wound the leading lady was while filming.

Aside from the phenomenal A Woman's Face (1941), [which might be her best ever], I really got a kick out of Above Suspicion (1943), since no one in their right mind would pair Crawford with Fred MacMurray, would they? Especially since Fred is supposed to be a Cambridge-educated professor, but they are a frisky couple, despite the absurdness of the plot. Yet here's one that I only recently discovered that I loved:
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Above: Joan Crawford appears a tad indifferent to John Wayne in Reunion in France, but she clearly felt warm for Philip Dorn's suave form in this scene.

Reunion in France (1941): Joan and John Wayne? No, that's not terribly credible, though the Duke tries hard to melt her iceberg of a character. Yet, there is a spark between Parisian Joanie and Philip Dorn, who plays her collaborationist main squeeze. Before coming into his own later, director Jules Dassin cut his teeth on this and other movies at MGM (see 1942's Nazi Agent sometime for a really good Dassin-helmed B flick starring Conrad Veidt as twins!).

Do you have any favorites among Crawford's films?

Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 12:03 pm
by mongoII
CineMaven, I'll be sitting front row center for the Crawford festival. She is also my cup of tea.
Disappointed that I didn't see her Oscar nominated role in "Sudden Fear" on the list.
Still have her autographed photo and notes on blue paper that she sent to me. A real movie star.

Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 2:32 pm
by moira finnie
mongoII wrote:CineMaven, I'll be sitting front row center for the Crawford festival. She is also my cup of tea.
Disappointed that I didn't see her Oscar nominated role in "Sudden Fear" on the list.
Still have her autographed photo and notes on blue paper that she sent to me. A real movie star.
Joe, did you see the recent repeat episode of a 2010 Antiques Roadshow with a GIANT autograph and letter from Joan included in a batch being evaluated? Ms. Crawford might be upset to learn that her "joan hancock" is not as valuable as it ought to be since she was so incredibly diligent about writing and signing letters to her many fans. Not that you are interested in selling, but I think that more of us would pay more for one!
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Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 3:31 pm
by CineMaven
[u][color=#FF0000]mongoII[/color][/u] wrote:CineMaven, I'll be sitting front row center for the Crawford festival. She is also my cup of tea. Disappointed that I didn't see her Oscar nominated role in "Sudden Fear" on the list...Still have her autographed photo and notes on blue paper that she sent to me. A real movie star.
Hey Mongo...Happy New Year Joey B. I've never seen "SUDDEN FEAR" and that was the first film I looked for when I saw TCM was featuring her. :(

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[u][color=#FF0000]ChiO[/color][/u] wrote:She definitely is my cup of tea. And what a kick-off with THE UNKNOWN -- one of my favorite Silents, my favorite Browning and my favorite Chaney.I used the knife-throwing scene in a class as an example of Pre-Code & Horror eroticism. I think I was the only one who bought it...but at least I got to watch it...again.
Pre-Code Horror Eroticism? Whoa! I wonder if Mr. Arkadin knows about that. Giallo before the Italians invented it. :lol:

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[u][color=#FF0000]moirafinnie[/color][/u] wrote:Do you have any favorites among Crawford's films?
I have similar Crawford Go-To films. I know those later films are really tough to see her in ( "Trog" et al. ) I think her sheer force of will kept her career going so long. My favorites are in "The Women" "Mildred Pierce" "Humoresque" "Possessed" "...Baby Jane?" of course. My friend Sheila loves her with Fred MacMurray and I hope to see different Joans than I always see.

She was a pretty girl.

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NOW whose got Bette Davis Eyes?

But I do love her entrance in "RAIN." Eyes and lips, that garish gargoyle make up. That dangling cigarette a meatphor ( ? ) But when Joan alights and greets the soldiers with: "BOYS." Joanaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! :D

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[u][color=#FF0000]moirafinnie[/color][/u] wrote:Joe, did you see the recent repeat episode of a 2010 Antiques Roadshow with a GIANT autograph and letter from Joan included in a batch being evaluated? Ms. Crawford might be upset to learn that her "joan hancock" is not as valuable as it ought to be since she was so incredibly diligent about writing and signing letters to her many fans. Not that you are interested in selling, but I think that more of us would pay more for one!
They had no idea the value. Ack!!! :roll:

Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 1st, 2014, 4:33 pm
by moira finnie
Which version of Possessed do you prefer? The 1931 pre-code one or the 1947 psychological drama? While both have completely different plots and equally powerful feelings are evoked while watching them, I have a soft spot for the heat generated by Crawford and Gable in the '31 movie, especially in this scene in front of the dressing table and the final clinch in the rain. Director Clarence Brown knew how to generate longing and desire on screen (though it didn't hurt that he had real life lovers to work with in some instances, did it?).

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Re: JOAN CRAWFORD - TCM STAR OF THE MONTH - JANUARY 2014

Posted: January 2nd, 2014, 2:25 pm
by RedRiver
the tawdry Flamingo Road

Tawdry, but delightful! Put this seedy soap opera alongside QUEEN BEE and I'm a happy fan. I had to learn to like Joan. Not my type, physically. Some of her characters are less than appealing. But she made such good choices. Time and again, she found fascinating projects. RAIN? The last word in movie star!