Re: SPORTS
Posted: December 8th, 2022, 9:53 am
You believe the power of prayer has an impact beyond a placebo effect? Especially for something like seeding in the NFL?
Let's put it this way. Although atheists would not want No. 3 to die, if he did then they might have something to crow about. The entire country is praying for him, many who perhaps are not even true believers. If No. 3 should then fail? Athiest 1, Prayer 0. I.e. prayer has no effect.jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 11:03 amYou believe the power of prayer has an impact beyond a placebo effect? Especially for something like seeding in the NFL?
I would hope even true-believers believe "god" has more important things to worry about. (ha ha).
My experience is that very religious people, when they encounter a situation where a prayer was not answered (or the outcome was different than desired), chalk it up to "God's will," and that there is a higher plan that we're unable to understand. It's never the case that prayer doesn't work.laffite wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 2:53 pmLet's put it this way. Although atheists would not want No. 3 to die, if he did then they might have something to crow about. The entire country is praying for him, many who perhaps are not even true believers. If No. 3 should then fail? Athiest 1, Prayer 0. I.e. prayer has no effect.jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 11:03 amYou believe the power of prayer has an impact beyond a placebo effect? Especially for something like seeding in the NFL?
I would hope even true-believers believe "god" has more important things to worry about. (ha ha).
I was posing a hypothetical, sort of. My point it would be rich if the worst happened. The atheist would have a story, that's all.txfilmfan wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 3:00 pmMy experience is that very religious people, when they encounter a situation where a prayer was not answered (or the outcome was different than desired), chalk it up to "God's will," and that there is a higher plan that we're unable to understand. It's never the case that prayer doesn't work.laffite wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 2:53 pmLet's put it this way. Although atheists would not want No. 3 to die, if he did then they might have something to crow about. The entire country is praying for him, many who perhaps are not even true believers. If No. 3 should then fail? Athiest 1, Prayer 0. I.e. prayer has no effect.jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 11:03 am
You believe the power of prayer has an impact beyond a placebo effect? Especially for something like seeding in the NFL?
I would hope even true-believers believe "god" has more important things to worry about. (ha ha).
You can't use logic on matters of faith.
Well said, and I agree. I'm an atheist but I know there is power in prayer. I was watching an episode from a 50s\60s western (I believe it was Wagon Train), and it covered the topic that, prayer is just as much about providing comfort to the one doing the prayer than it is for the one being prayed for. The point was that most believers accept that it is unlikely their prayers will actually impact the outcome, but prayer is a way to show respect and provided comfort to the impacted person as well as their loved ones. Thus a sign of compassion and this world needs all the compassion that it can muster.txfilmfan wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 3:00 pmMy experience is that very religious people, when they encounter a situation where a prayer was not answered (or the outcome was different than desired), chalk it up to "God's will," and that there is a higher plan that we're unable to understand. It's never the case that prayer doesn't work.laffite wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 2:53 pmLet's put it this way. Although atheists would not want No. 3 to die, if he did then they might have something to crow about. The entire country is praying for him, many who perhaps are not even true believers. If No. 3 should then fail? Athiest 1, Prayer 0. I.e. prayer has no effect.jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 11:03 am
You believe the power of prayer has an impact beyond a placebo effect? Especially for something like seeding in the NFL?
I would hope even true-believers believe "god" has more important things to worry about. (ha ha).
You can't use logic on matters of faith.
I like that. Thanks.jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑January 10th, 2023, 2:42 pm... The point was that most believers accept that it is unlikely their prayers will actually impact the outcome, but prayer is a way to show respect and provided comfort to the impacted person as well as their loved ones.txfilmfan wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 3:00 pmMy experience is that very religious people, when they encounter a situation where a prayer was not answered (or the outcome was different than desired), chalk it up to "God's will," and that there is a higher plan that we're unable to understand. It's never the case that prayer doesn't work.laffite wrote: ↑January 9th, 2023, 2:53 pm
Let's put it this way. Although atheists would not want No. 3 to die, if he did then they might have something to crow about. The entire country is praying for him, many who perhaps are not even true believers. If No. 3 should then fail? Athiest 1, Prayer 0. I.e. prayer has no effect.
You can't use logic on matters of faith.