Yeah but Thelma Ritter had good hands and a great personality.Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 4:39 pm The thing I most enjoy about Rear Window is watching the beautiful, gorgeous, delectable Grace Kelly move around.
Other than that, the movie is kind of boring for me.
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She was funny too.jimimac71 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 5:30 pmYeah but Thelma Ritter had good hands and a great personality.Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 4:39 pm The thing I most enjoy about Rear Window is watching the beautiful, gorgeous, delectable Grace Kelly move around.
Other than that, the movie is kind of boring for me.
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Funny you both should say that- we just screened the newly restored Rear Window and many in the audience had never seen it. When describing it to others, I could not recall the ending & said so. I paid extra close attention and while Burr attacks the Stewart charactor he says, "Just what do you WANT from me?" and the police arrive. The End.Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 4:39 pm The thing I most enjoy about Rear Window is watching the beautiful, gorgeous, delectable Grace Kelly move around.
We are left to wonder if she was murdered or just away on "vacation"? The issue is never truly settled. Hitchcock's McGuffin.
And both Mr Tiki & I were completely underwhelmed by Grace Kelly's appearance. She was plainly pretty but so tarted up all I saw was blue eyeshadow, red lips & stiff blonde hair-horrible, clownish.
I felt she was much more beautiful as an older woman, in light, more natural make up.
Psycho is one of those perfect movies-everyone likes it-all ages, any culture, country or language...it works great. It's often a movie I use to break teens of the "icky" B&W movie prejudice.
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I suppose, as Gene Pitney might've put it for me, I'm looking through the eyes of love.TikiSoo wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 5:45 pmShe was plainly pretty but so tarted up all I saw was blue eyeshadow, red lips & stiff blonde hair-horrible, clownish.Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 4:39 pm The thing I most enjoy about Rear Window is watching the beautiful, gorgeous, delectable Grace Kelly move around.
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Not Melissa Manchester?Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 6:09 pm
I suppose, as Gene Pitney might've put it for me, I'm looking through the eyes of love.
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Good God, no.Fedya wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 6:17 pmNot Melissa Manchester?Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 6:09 pm
I suppose, as Gene Pitney might've put it for me, I'm looking through the eyes of love.
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"Love is the absence of judgement."Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 4:39 pm The thing I most enjoy about Rear Window is watching the beautiful, gorgeous, delectable Grace Kelly move around.
Other than that, the movie is kind of boring for me.
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I didn't think it was in question at all, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.TikiSoo wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 5:45 pmFunny you both should say that- we just screened the newly restored Rear Window and many in the audience had never seen it. When describing it to others, I could not recall the ending & said so. I paid extra close attention and while Burr attacks the Stewart charactor he says, "Just what do you WANT from me?" and the police arrive. The End.Intrepid37 wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 4:39 pm The thing I most enjoy about Rear Window is watching the beautiful, gorgeous, delectable Grace Kelly move around.
We are left to wonder if she was murdered or just away on "vacation"? The issue is never truly settled. Hitchcock's McGuffin.
And both Mr Tiki & I were completely underwhelmed by Grace Kelly's appearance. She was plainly pretty but so tarted up all I saw was blue eyeshadow, red lips & stiff blonde hair-horrible, clownish.
I felt she was much more beautiful as an older woman, in light, more natural make up.
Psycho is one of those perfect movies-everyone likes it-all ages, any culture, country or language...it works great. It's often a movie I use to break teens of the "icky" B&W movie prejudice.
In the next to the last scene, after the Thorwald encounter in Jeff's apartment, Jeff asks Tom Doyle is he's got enough for a search warrant now. He replies "Oh yeah, sure." Then, one of the NYPD detectives says that "Thorwald is ready to take us on a tour of the East River." After that, Stella (Ritter) whispers something to Tom Doyle, the lead detective, which he repeats back to the other detective, and asks if Thorwald said what was buried in the flower bed. The detective said the dog got too inquisitive so he (Thorwald) dug it up. It's in a hatbox in his apartment.
I took that exchange to mean that there was a murder. If not, there were certainly some unsavory events that occurred.
In the epilog, we get to see some of the neighbor's storylines resolve (most of them happily), and we see Lisa (Grace Kelly) lounging in Jeff's apartment in jeans and penny loafers (but still with full makeup!)
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The first time I saw Rear Window I had a suspicion that Lisa (Grace Kelly) and Detective Tom Doyle were colluding to make to make Jeff (James Stewart) think he was losing his mind and, yes, that Thorwald (Raymond Burr) was involved in their plot and had not actually murdered his wife. So Lisa was in no real danger when she goes into Thorwald's apartment. This would have been a twist on the plot of Hitchcock's previous release Dial M For Murder where Ray Milland's character had set up his adulterous wife (played by Grace Kelly) to take the fall for murdering the man that Ray Milland's character had hired to kill her.Dargo wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 12:40 pmAs I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting here Bagel, could you elaborate upon this here? Sounds like an intriguing thought.BagelOnAPlate wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 12:28 pm
Rear Window is a good movie, but I admit that the ending was disappointing to me: I was expecting a twist. Maybe the twist was that there was no twist.
Would you be suggesting the idea that Raymond Burr's character hadn't actually murdered his wife in it, or something other than this?
But in Rear Window it turned out to be a "it was what it was" situation. James Stewart's character had seen the aftermath of a murder committed by Raymond Burr's character.
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PSYCHO changed the world. When new, it was the dirty movie by that dirty old man. I'm sure LOTS of young people cued to see PSYCHO.
Meanwhile, back in England contemporary MICHAEL POWELL effectively ended his own career with a color film of comparable ilk, PEEPING TOM.
Meanwhile, back in England contemporary MICHAEL POWELL effectively ended his own career with a color film of comparable ilk, PEEPING TOM.
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Interesting concept here, Bagel. I must admit this idea had never crossed my mind during the times I've watched this film.BagelOnAPlate wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 10:13 pmThe first time I saw Rear Window I had a suspicion that Lisa (Grace Kelly) and Detective Tom Doyle were colluding to make to make Jeff (James Stewart) think he was losing his mind and, yes, that Thorwald (Raymond Burr) was involved in their plot and had not actually murdered his wife. So Lisa was in no real danger when she goes into Thorwald's apartment. This would have been a twist on the plot of Hitchcock's previous release Dial M For Murder where Ray Milland's character had set up his adulterous wife (played by Grace Kelly) to take the fall for murdering the man that Ray Milland's character had hired to kill her.Dargo wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 12:40 pmAs I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting here Bagel, could you elaborate upon this here? Sounds like an intriguing thought.BagelOnAPlate wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 12:28 pm
Rear Window is a good movie, but I admit that the ending was disappointing to me: I was expecting a twist. Maybe the twist was that there was no twist.
Would you be suggesting the idea that Raymond Burr's character hadn't actually murdered his wife in it, or something other than this?
But in Rear Window it turned out to be a "it was what it was" situation. James Stewart's character had seen the aftermath of a murder committed by Raymond Burr's character.
However, somethin's telling me here it just might've also crossed Brian De Palma's mind the first time he ever watched 'Rear Window', anyway. De Palma of course being well known for taking Hitchcock movies and putting his own little spin on them.
(...in fact, your spin on this sounding a bit to me like the plot in De Palma's film 'Body Double', and which in turn is really somewhat a convoluted concoction of both Hitchcock's 'Rear Window' and 'Vertigo')
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REAR WINDOW is a long time favorite of mine. And actually did spark my interest in photography. I once owned a Miranda SLR camera like the one Jimmy Stewart had in the movie. Damn good camera. I even used it on several wedding assignments.
Like Intrepid I too enjoy watching Grace Kelly move around. But really, watching "Miss Torso" move around is more interesting.
My only disappointment in the movie is never learning why Thorwald killed Mr. Drucker's dog. And had there at one time been something significant buried under that flower that got shorter?
But PSYCHO? Well, never having seen it until I was in my 20's it didn't disturb me. And knowing a bit about how movies were made I wondered how much chocolate syrup was actually washed down that bathtub drain.
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Like Intrepid I too enjoy watching Grace Kelly move around. But really, watching "Miss Torso" move around is more interesting.
My only disappointment in the movie is never learning why Thorwald killed Mr. Drucker's dog. And had there at one time been something significant buried under that flower that got shorter?
But PSYCHO? Well, never having seen it until I was in my 20's it didn't disturb me. And knowing a bit about how movies were made I wondered how much chocolate syrup was actually washed down that bathtub drain.
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