Re: Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho
Posted: June 19th, 2023, 12:27 pm
I thought he killed the dog because the dog was digging under those flowers and was going to find something (I want to say the knife) that was buried there.
The dog was killed because it was sniffing around Throrwald's "pet flower bed" where Mrs. Thorwald's HEAD was buried (we learn quite snappily all that including the head is in a hatbox in Thorwald's apartment... wanna look...?)
I've never seen Body Double, Dargo.Dargo wrote: ↑June 19th, 2023, 11:03 amInteresting concept here, Bagel. I must admit this idea had never crossed my mind during the times I've watched this film.BagelOnAPlate wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 10:13 pmThe first time I saw Rear Window I had a suspicion that Lisa (Grace Kelly) and Detective Tom Doyle were colluding to make to make Jeff (James Stewart) think he was losing his mind and, yes, that Thorwald (Raymond Burr) was involved in their plot and had not actually murdered his wife. So Lisa was in no real danger when she goes into Thorwald's apartment. This would have been a twist on the plot of Hitchcock's previous release Dial M For Murder where Ray Milland's character had set up his adulterous wife (played by Grace Kelly) to take the fall for murdering the man that Ray Milland's character had hired to kill her.Dargo wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 12:40 pm
As I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting here Bagel, could you elaborate upon this here? Sounds like an intriguing thought.
Would you be suggesting the idea that Raymond Burr's character hadn't actually murdered his wife in it, or something other than this?
But in Rear Window it turned out to be a "it was what it was" situation. James Stewart's character had seen the aftermath of a murder committed by Raymond Burr's character.
However, somethin's telling me here it just might've also crossed Brian De Palma's mind the first time he ever watched 'Rear Window', anyway. De Palma of course being well known for taking Hitchcock movies and putting his own little spin on them.
(...in fact, your spin on this sounding a bit to me like the plot in De Palma's film 'Body Double', and which in turn is really somewhat a convoluted concoction of both Hitchcock's 'Rear Window' and 'Vertigo')
Brian De Palma's SISTERS is a favorite of mine. I've seen it many times.BagelOnAPlate wrote: ↑June 19th, 2023, 8:31 pmI've never seen Body Double, Dargo.Dargo wrote: ↑June 19th, 2023, 11:03 amInteresting concept here, Bagel. I must admit this idea had never crossed my mind during the times I've watched this film.BagelOnAPlate wrote: ↑June 18th, 2023, 10:13 pm
The first time I saw Rear Window I had a suspicion that Lisa (Grace Kelly) and Detective Tom Doyle were colluding to make to make Jeff (James Stewart) think he was losing his mind and, yes, that Thorwald (Raymond Burr) was involved in their plot and had not actually murdered his wife. So Lisa was in no real danger when she goes into Thorwald's apartment. This would have been a twist on the plot of Hitchcock's previous release Dial M For Murder where Ray Milland's character had set up his adulterous wife (played by Grace Kelly) to take the fall for murdering the man that Ray Milland's character had hired to kill her.
But in Rear Window it turned out to be a "it was what it was" situation. James Stewart's character had seen the aftermath of a murder committed by Raymond Burr's character.
However, somethin's telling me here it just might've also crossed Brian De Palma's mind the first time he ever watched 'Rear Window', anyway. De Palma of course being well known for taking Hitchcock movies and putting his own little spin on them.
(...in fact, your spin on this sounding a bit to me like the plot in De Palma's film 'Body Double', and which in turn is really somewhat a convoluted concoction of both Hitchcock's 'Rear Window' and 'Vertigo')
I'm not sure if it's a good thing to know that my mind possibly went where Brian De Palma's did when watching Rear Window.
I have only seen a few of De Palma's movies, although I do like all the ones I have seen, to wit:
Sisters
Carrie
Dressed To Kill
PS. It's always nice when an occasion arises when I can use the expression "to wit" . . .
So reminiscent of the Robert Montgomery film "Night Must Fall" from 1937!! The head Danny (Robert Montgomery) carries around in the hat box!! Hunt Stromberg/Richard Thorpe and adapted from the play written by Emlyn Williams (a most interesting actor!!).Allhallowsday wrote: ↑June 19th, 2023, 12:58 pmThe dog was killed because it was sniffing around Throrwald's "pet flower bed" where Mrs. Thorwald's HEAD was buried (we learn quite snappily all that including the head is in a hatbox in Thorwald's apartment... wanna look...?)