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Hibi wrote: August 28th, 2024, 2:46 pm
Feinberg wrote: August 23rd, 2024, 3:02 pm I really like Ginger Coffey and it gives one a good feeling of Montreal in the 60's. Besides great performances from Shaw and Ure, Libby McLintock is good as their daughter and watch for Liam Redmond as the Scottish managing editor and Tom Harvey as Joe McGlade. Enjoy!
I enjoyed the film, but didn't understand the ending. We are to imply she took him back? I missed the intro so I was unsure where this was taking place at first. Even later was unsure what city (obviously Quebec)
It's set in Montreal. The ending does imply that she takes him back; she allows him inside rather than closing the door on him. Well, people make bad decisions all the time! Apparently the novel makes the ending clearer (per Wiki).

There are parallels to A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, with the (allegedly) charming ne'er-do-well father and the practical mother. It's easier to find the James Dunn character charming, as he's seen through his young daughter's eyes. Charm doesn't come as easily to Robert Shaw (as fine as his performance is) as to James Dunn, and looked at head-on, Ginger Coffey is not an appealing character. The location shooting is a huge plus, with Montreal, its apartments, the newspaper office and printing press, and so on, not to mention the cars with tailfins, which car aficionados will appreciate.
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kingrat wrote: September 3rd, 2024, 3:01 pm
Hibi wrote: August 28th, 2024, 2:46 pm
Feinberg wrote: August 23rd, 2024, 3:02 pm I really like Ginger Coffey and it gives one a good feeling of Montreal in the 60's. Besides great performances from Shaw and Ure, Libby McLintock is good as their daughter and watch for Liam Redmond as the Scottish managing editor and Tom Harvey as Joe McGlade. Enjoy!
I enjoyed the film, but didn't understand the ending. We are to imply she took him back? I missed the intro so I was unsure where this was taking place at first. Even later was unsure what city (obviously Quebec)
It's set in Montreal. The ending does imply that she takes him back; she allows him inside rather than closing the door on him. Well, people make bad decisions all the time! Apparently the novel makes the ending clearer (per Wiki).

There are parallels to A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, with the (allegedly) charming ne'er-do-well father and the practical mother. It's easier to find the James Dunn character charming, as he's seen through his young daughter's eyes. Charm doesn't come as easily to Robert Shaw (as fine as his performance is) as to James Dunn, and looked at head-on, Ginger Coffey is not an appealing character. The location shooting is a huge plus, with Montreal, its apartments, the newspaper office and printing press, and so on, not to mention the cars with tailfins, which car aficionados will appreciate.
Yeah, I got that near the end (Montreal) someone alluded to it (maybe in the court scene? can't remember) I wanted to throw a brick at Mary Ure at the end. WHAT are you doing????
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SUN., 9-15

7:00 pm (CT)

They All Laughed ('81)

"... tells the story of three private detectives investigating two beautiful women for infidelity. The detectives eventually wind up romantically pursuing the women, who turn the tables on them. The film is also a candid look at love and sex in New York City in the early 1980s. ..

directed by Peter Bogdanovich
starring:
Ben Gazzara, Audrey Hepburn, John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Patti Hansen, and Dorothy Stratten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_All_Laughed

".... As in Bogdanovich’s much-maligned musical At Long Last Love, there’s a sense in which flesh-and-blood people strain to match the silver-screen characters of their memories, just as the director himself aims to fill the shoes of auteurs from classical Hollywood; here, however, such tensions are resolved by incorporating their shortcomings into the film’s accepting mood of tender, bittersweet humanity, with Bogdanovich fondly channeling rather than deconstructing cinema’s past. ...
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/they-all-laughed/
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ziggy6708a wrote: Yesterday, 11:45 am SUN., 9-15

7:00 pm (CT)

They All Laughed ('81)

"... tells the story of three private detectives investigating two beautiful women for infidelity. The detectives eventually wind up romantically pursuing the women, who turn the tables on them. The film is also a candid look at love and sex in New York City in the early 1980s. ..

directed by Peter Bogdanovich
starring:
Ben Gazzara, Audrey Hepburn, John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Patti Hansen, and Dorothy Stratten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_All_Laughed

".... As in Bogdanovich’s much-maligned musical At Long Last Love, there’s a sense in which flesh-and-blood people strain to match the silver-screen characters of their memories, just as the director himself aims to fill the shoes of auteurs from classical Hollywood; here, however, such tensions are resolved by incorporating their shortcomings into the film’s accepting mood of tender, bittersweet humanity, with Bogdanovich fondly channeling rather than deconstructing cinema’s past. ...
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/they-all-laughed/
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It's a bit of a rough-hewn film, heavy on the New York gritty look of the period, with an eclectic country music soundtrack. Audrey Hepburn has top billing, but her role isn't large, though of course she does well with what scenes she was. However, Colleen Camp is hilarious in this film, an utter delight.
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ziggy6708a wrote: Yesterday, 11:45 am SUN., 9-15

7:00 pm (CT)

They All Laughed ('81)

"... tells the story of three private detectives investigating two beautiful women for infidelity. The detectives eventually wind up romantically pursuing the women, who turn the tables on them. The film is also a candid look at love and sex in New York City in the early 1980s. ..

directed by Peter Bogdanovich
starring:
Ben Gazzara, Audrey Hepburn, John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Patti Hansen, and Dorothy Stratten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_All_Laughed

".... As in Bogdanovich’s much-maligned musical At Long Last Love, there’s a sense in which flesh-and-blood people strain to match the silver-screen characters of their memories, just as the director himself aims to fill the shoes of auteurs from classical Hollywood; here, however, such tensions are resolved by incorporating their shortcomings into the film’s accepting mood of tender, bittersweet humanity, with Bogdanovich fondly channeling rather than deconstructing cinema’s past. ...
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/they-all-laughed/
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It's also available on Max which has a TCM section. If there is anyone who doesn't know, Dorothy Stratten was the Playboy Playmate of the Year 1980. She was murdered by her husband/manager shortly after this movie was made. He then committed suicide.
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ElCid wrote: Yesterday, 12:49 pm
ziggy6708a wrote: Yesterday, 11:45 am SUN., 9-15

7:00 pm (CT)

They All Laughed ('81)

"... tells the story of three private detectives investigating two beautiful women for infidelity. The detectives eventually wind up romantically pursuing the women, who turn the tables on them. The film is also a candid look at love and sex in New York City in the early 1980s. ..

directed by Peter Bogdanovich
starring:
Ben Gazzara, Audrey Hepburn, John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Patti Hansen, and Dorothy Stratten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_All_Laughed

".... As in Bogdanovich’s much-maligned musical At Long Last Love, there’s a sense in which flesh-and-blood people strain to match the silver-screen characters of their memories, just as the director himself aims to fill the shoes of auteurs from classical Hollywood; here, however, such tensions are resolved by incorporating their shortcomings into the film’s accepting mood of tender, bittersweet humanity, with Bogdanovich fondly channeling rather than deconstructing cinema’s past. ...
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/they-all-laughed/
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It's also available on Max which has a TCM section. If there is anyone who doesn't know, Dorothy Stratten was the Playboy Playmate of the Year 1980. She was murdered by her husband/manager shortly after this movie was made. He then committed suicide.
Yes, a truly horrible fate for her, one that happened a mere month after filming ended on this film. Her fate inspired a TV movie with Jamie Lee Curtis and the theatrical film Star 80 with Mariel Hemingway and a chilling Eric Roberts.

Stratton's murder destroyed any chance this film might have had. It was originally going to be distributed by 20th Century Fox (a short lived division of Time-Life financed it), but Fox cut all ties with the film after the murder, and no other studio in Hollywood wanted to pick it up. Bogdanovich ended up using his own money to get it into a handful of theatres.
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They All Laughed had a lot of potential and a great cast. All it needed was a good script. (which it didn't have). Audrey Hepburn is wasted, but looks great. It was produced by Time/Life films which pulled out of the film business after production wrapped. (They also produced Ft. Apache the Bronx with Paul Newman which had a better fate and I think one other film). After several sneak previews that didn't go well, 20th decided not to release the film and Bogdanovich bought the film rights and released it himself to disastrous results and bad reviews in NYC. I believe the film was recut and opened later on in LA to very positive reviews and did well at the box office, but I don't think it had much of a general release outside some big cities. Haven't seen it in years, so I might watch it again. The cast do what they can, but they don't have much to work with. I agree, Colleen Camp brings a lot to the film with her performance. Thanks for the heads up!


Btw, this isn't a TCM premiere. It's been shown before, but has been rarely shown on TCM.
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Hibi wrote: Yesterday, 2:09 pm They All Laughed had a lot of potential and a great cast. All it needed was a good script. (which it didn't have). Audrey Hepburn is wasted, but looks great. It was produced by Time/Life films which pulled out of the film business after production wrapped. (They also produced Ft. Apache the Bronx with Paul Newman which had a better fate and I think one other film). After several sneak previews that didn't go well, 20th decided not to release the film and Bogdanovich bought the film rights and released it himself to disastrous results and bad reviews in NYC. I believe the film was recut and opened later on in LA to very positive reviews and did well at the box office, but I don't think it had much of a general release outside some big cities. Haven't seen it in years, so I might watch it again. The cast do what they can, but they don't have much to work with. I agree, Colleen Camp brings a lot to the film with her performance. Thanks for the heads up!


Btw, this isn't a TCM premiere. It's been shown before, but has been rarely shown on TCM.
The other film they financed was no keeper: Loving Couples, a tale of infidelity that starred Shirley MacLaine, James Coburn, Susan Sarandon, Stephen Collins, and Sally Kellerman. It was hardly memorable, although it was better paced and livelier than a very similar film MacLaine appeared in the same year and also released by Fox called A Change of Seasons which had Anthony Hopkins leave her to cavort with Bo Derek. The opening credits sequence of that film had a nude Bo bouncing around in a hot tub. Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that lustful young men snunk into the theatre for that and left immediately afterwards?
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I don't even remember Loving Couples, but I did remember there were 3 films before Time/Life pulled the plug!
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Hibi wrote: Yesterday, 3:38 pm I don't even remember Loving Couples, but I did remember there were 3 films before Time/Life pulled the plug!
Loving Couples is a terrible film and a total waste of time Iwatched it a few years ago for the cast.
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ziggy6708a wrote: Yesterday, 11:45 am SUN., 9-15

7:00 pm (CT)

They All Laughed ('81)

"... tells the story of three private detectives investigating two beautiful women for infidelity. The detectives eventually wind up romantically pursuing the women, who turn the tables on them. The film is also a candid look at love and sex in New York City in the early 1980s. ..

directed by Peter Bogdanovich
starring:
Ben Gazzara, Audrey Hepburn, John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Patti Hansen, and Dorothy Stratten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_All_Laughed

".... As in Bogdanovich’s much-maligned musical At Long Last Love, there’s a sense in which flesh-and-blood people strain to match the silver-screen characters of their memories, just as the director himself aims to fill the shoes of auteurs from classical Hollywood; here, however, such tensions are resolved by incorporating their shortcomings into the film’s accepting mood of tender, bittersweet humanity, with Bogdanovich fondly channeling rather than deconstructing cinema’s past. ...
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/they-all-laughed/
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"Btw, this isn't a TCM premiere.
It's been shown before, but has been rarely shown on TCM."
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& is listed as a premiere in NP Guide :smiley_huh:
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nakanosunplaza wrote: Yesterday, 5:08 pm
Hibi wrote: Yesterday, 3:38 pm I don't even remember Loving Couples, but I did remember there were 3 films before Time/Life pulled the plug!
Loving Couples is a terrible film and a total waste of time Iwatched it a few years ago for the cast.
Guess I didn't miss anything!
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ziggy6708a wrote: Yesterday, 7:20 pm
ziggy6708a wrote: Yesterday, 11:45 am SUN., 9-15

7:00 pm (CT)

They All Laughed ('81)

"... tells the story of three private detectives investigating two beautiful women for infidelity. The detectives eventually wind up romantically pursuing the women, who turn the tables on them. The film is also a candid look at love and sex in New York City in the early 1980s. ..

directed by Peter Bogdanovich
starring:
Ben Gazzara, Audrey Hepburn, John Ritter, Colleen Camp, Patti Hansen, and Dorothy Stratten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_All_Laughed

".... As in Bogdanovich’s much-maligned musical At Long Last Love, there’s a sense in which flesh-and-blood people strain to match the silver-screen characters of their memories, just as the director himself aims to fill the shoes of auteurs from classical Hollywood; here, however, such tensions are resolved by incorporating their shortcomings into the film’s accepting mood of tender, bittersweet humanity, with Bogdanovich fondly channeling rather than deconstructing cinema’s past. ...
https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/they-all-laughed/
:smiley_chinrub:
"Btw, this isn't a TCM premiere.
It's been shown before, but has been rarely shown on TCM."
==============================
& is listed as a premiere in NP Guide :smiley_huh:
VERY strange, as I watched it once before on TCM years ago.
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