Hibi wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 4:27 pm
The combination of the two films in the same year probably put her over. (One can only win for one picture, but several Oscar worthy performances in the same year can add to the likelihood of winning).
True, plus also Kitty Foyle was the film that was more palatable to public morals at the time, which was probably why she won for that one instead. (The Academy still continued to do things like that after the code ended....Diane Keaton likely won as much for that grueling, hard-edged performance in Mister Goodbar as she did for Annie Hall (where she more or less played her lovable self) and Dennis Hopper was nominated for his low-key Hoosiers performance instead of his terrifying mad-dog work in Blue Velvet)
I believe that at the time, each studio submitted the performances that would qualify for a nomination. Both films were made by RKO, and thus it wasn't the Academy that made the choice but instead RKO.
(and also independent actors like Stanwyck and Grant were nominated as often as we might feel today, since there would be little benefit to the studio for doing so: I.e. the studios would mainly only push nominations for talent that was under a fixed term contract).
Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2024, 6:13 pm
THE MONTE CARLO STORY
Society gamblers on the French Riviera, with two significantly surreal moments -- Marlene Dietrich sings "On The Banks Of The Wabash" and is propositioned by (ugh) Arthur O'Connell.
TikiSoo wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 7:11 am
I just discovered an over the air classic movie channel MOVIES! It’s replaced the now intolerable NPR that I’ve been listening to after cutting TCM/cable to play while working.
MOVIES! offer a more limited palette than TCM, but it was fun listening to NOW VOYAGER while painting yesterday. Although I know several lines by heart, I LOL when Bette Davis uttered, “YOU have a son while all I have is a dried corsagé”
God talk to me! You people like making fun of me!
Sorry, but the only reason to watch Now Voyager is for Bette's nervous breakdown early in the movie. This, as opposed to Old Acquaintance, where the one scene worth watching comes all the way at the end of the film.
Aww, the aliens have minds and souls, just like us, only they somehow think human beings are better looking and so disguise themselves as Earthlings in order to soften the presence of their ugly little one-eyed bodies.
I like how Barbara Rush's conservative outfit suddenly turns into a sexy black low-cut gown when a certain change takes place.
Hibi wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 4:27 pm
The combination of the two films in the same year probably put her over. (One can only win for one picture, but several Oscar worthy performances in the same year can add to the likelihood of winning).
True, plus also Kitty Foyle was the film that was more palatable to public morals at the time, which was probably why she won for that one instead. (The Academy still continued to do things like that after the code ended....Diane Keaton likely won as much for that grueling, hard-edged performance in Mister Goodbar as she did for Annie Hall (where she more or less played her lovable self) and Dennis Hopper was nominated for his low-key Hoosiers performance instead of his terrifying mad-dog work in Blue Velvet)
Yep. He could have won for Blue Velvet but nominating him for Hoosiers caused him to lose. At least he was nominated that year.
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Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2024, 6:13 pm
THE MONTE CARLO STORY
Society gamblers on the French Riviera, with two significantly surreal moments -- Marlene Dietrich sings "On The Banks Of The Wabash" and is propositioned by (ugh) Arthur O'Connell.
Hibi wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 4:27 pm
The combination of the two films in the same year probably put her over. (One can only win for one picture, but several Oscar worthy performances in the same year can add to the likelihood of winning).
True, plus also Kitty Foyle was the film that was more palatable to public morals at the time, which was probably why she won for that one instead. (The Academy still continued to do things like that after the code ended....Diane Keaton likely won as much for that grueling, hard-edged performance in Mister Goodbar as she did for Annie Hall (where she more or less played her lovable self) and Dennis Hopper was nominated for his low-key Hoosiers performance instead of his terrifying mad-dog work in Blue Velvet)
Yep. He could have won for Blue Velvet but nominating him for Hoosiers caused him to lose. At least he was nominated that year.
Entertainment Tonight filmed Dennis Hopper at his home when the nominations were announced that year. When he heard the nomination was for Hoosiers, he started saying "Hmm, Hoosiers, I got it for Hoosiers?"
Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2024, 6:13 pm
THE MONTE CARLO STORY
Society gamblers on the French Riviera, with two significantly surreal moments -- Marlene Dietrich sings "On The Banks Of The Wabash" and is propositioned by (ugh) Arthur O'Connell.
Please miss.
LOL!
Arthur O'Connell -- every woman's dream lover.
Just think of some of the other guys who were cast in leading man roles in the 1930s and 1940s: Pat O'Brien, Joe E. Brown, Edward Arnold. Every girl's dream, right?
Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 6:02 pm
IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE
I like how Barbara Rush's conservative outfit suddenly turns into a sexy black low-cut gown when a certain change takes place.
it's the same science that causes women who transform into VAMPIRES to suddenly be wearing low-cut diaphanous gowns in neutral tones.
I don't get the physics of it either.
True, plus also Kitty Foyle was the film that was more palatable to public morals at the time, which was probably why she won for that one instead. (The Academy still continued to do things like that after the code ended....Diane Keaton likely won as much for that grueling, hard-edged performance in Mister Goodbar as she did for Annie Hall (where she more or less played her lovable self) and Dennis Hopper was nominated for his low-key Hoosiers performance instead of his terrifying mad-dog work in Blue Velvet)
Yep. He could have won for Blue Velvet but nominating him for Hoosiers caused him to lose. At least he was nominated that year.
Entertainment Tonight filmed Dennis Hopper at his home when the nominations were announced that year. When he heard the nomination was for Hoosiers, he started saying "Hmm, Hoosiers, I got it for Hoosiers?"
LOL! I remember watching that. He seemed surprised. Who wouldn't be?
Just think of some of the other guys who were cast in leading man roles in the 1930s and 1940s: Pat O'Brien, Joe E. Brown, Edward Arnold. Every girl's dream, right?
Hibi wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 4:27 pm
The combination of the two films in the same year probably put [GINGER ROGERS] over [in 1940]. (One can only win for one picture, but several Oscar worthy performances in the same year can add to the likelihood of winning).
True, plus also Kitty Foyle was the film that was more palatable to public morals at the time, which was probably why she won for that one instead. (The Academy still continued to do things like that after the code ended....Diane Keaton likely won as much for that grueling, hard-edged performance in Mister Goodbar as she did for Annie Hall (where she more or less played her lovable self) and Dennis Hopper was nominated for his low-key Hoosiers performance instead of his terrifying mad-dog work in Bluuuuuuuuuue Velvet)
1.when i was about 16, i tracked down a very expensive copy of KITTY FOYLE- the novel on which the film was based- and read it excitedly because I was (at the time) a BIG FAN of the movie (it was one of my first CLASSIC FILM experiences)...
HOO BOY DID THEY CHANGE A LOT!!!!!! It's a pretty dark story and (trigger warning)
the book goes into pretty extensive detail about what i recall being a botched abortion KITTY endures with WYNN'S BABY when he walks out on her. I did NOT LIKE IT AT THE TIME, but now I am curious what i would think if I were to reread it.
2.wouldn't it have been a hoot if DIANE KEATON had played her role in MR GOODBAR the exact same as ANNIE HALL????? "La-Dee-Dah, I've just been stabbed by one of my innumerable meaningless one-night stands- God, I should've known better than to tease RICHARD GERE about his masculinity....Oh well, now I'm bleeding out...Still better than sex with Woody.... La-di-dahhh...."
3. in retrospect, it's kind of surprising BLUUUUUE VELVET didn't do better at the Oscars because it is (and I mean this as a compliment, and spoiler included)- kind of a feel-good movie with that happy ending that comes out of nowhere and slaps you across the face,.
Just think of some of the other guys who were cast in leading man roles in the 1930s and 1940s: Pat O'Brien, Joe E. Brown, Edward Arnold. Every girl's dream, right?
Hibi wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 4:27 pm
The combination of the two films in the same year probably put [GINGER ROGERS] over [in 1940]. (One can only win for one picture, but several Oscar worthy performances in the same year can add to the likelihood of winning).
True, plus also Kitty Foyle was the film that was more palatable to public morals at the time, which was probably why she won for that one instead. (The Academy still continued to do things like that after the code ended....Diane Keaton likely won as much for that grueling, hard-edged performance in Mister Goodbar as she did for Annie Hall (where she more or less played her lovable self) and Dennis Hopper was nominated for his low-key Hoosiers performance instead of his terrifying mad-dog work in Bluuuuuuuuuue Velvet)
1.when i was about 16, i tracked down a very expensive copy of KITTY FOYLE- the novel on which the film was based- and read it excitedly because I was (at the time) a BIG FAN of the movie (it was one of my first CLASSIC FILM experiences)...
HOO BOY DID THEY CHANGE A LOT!!!!!! It's a pretty dark story and (trigger warning)
the book goes into pretty extensive detail about what i recall being a botched abortion KITTY endures with WYNN'S BABY when he walks out on her. I did NOT LIKE IT AT THE TIME, but now I am curious what i would think if I were to reread it.
2.wouldn't it have been a hoot if DIANE KEATON had played her role in MR GOODBAR the exact same as ANNIE HALL????? "La-Dee-Dah, I've just been stabbed by one of my innumerable meaningless one-night stands- God, I should've known better than to tease RICHARD GERE about his masculinity....Oh well, now I'm bleeding out...Still better than sex with Woody.... La-di-dahhh...."
3. in retrospect, it's kind of surprising BLUUUUUE VELVET didn't do better at the Oscars because it is (and I mean this as a compliment, and spoiler included)- kind of a feel-good movie with that happy ending that comes out of nowhere and slaps you across the face,.
LMREO!!!!!! (Annie Goodbar). Yeah, the botched abortion would've been taboo with the code. Too bad. Would've made for a grittier movie for sure.
Bronxgirl48 wrote: ↑September 4th, 2024, 6:02 pm
IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE
Aww, the aliens have minds and souls, just like us, only they somehow think human beings are better looking and so disguise themselves as Earthlings in order to soften the presence of their ugly little one-eyed bodies.
I like how Barbara Rush's conservative outfit suddenly turns into a sexy black low-cut gown when a certain change takes place.
Well, being taken over by aliens can be a very sexy thing. Did the Aliens keep that dress, I wonder.
I saw this when it came out and remember being a little spooked by that Eye. But I wasn't afeard o' it, the movie, much.
But there was one that did scare me. This Island Earth Ooh boy, that was a good one! But what happened to it. Rare?
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright moron" ===H.L. Mencken (1880=1956)
