Henri-Georges Clouzot

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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby JackFavell » November 18th, 2012, 5:37 pm

Isn't it the truth Red? I just really got into the story, the emotions and the flow. It didn't matter as much that some of the shots were breathtaking, but it sure didn't hurt either. It was the most un-self-conscious film I can remember seeing by a great filmmaker.

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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby CineMaven » November 18th, 2012, 5:48 pm

"You build my gallows high, baby."


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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby CineMaven » November 29th, 2012, 5:30 am

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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby JackFavell » November 29th, 2012, 7:46 am

Oh my gosh, I think you really hit on something there! She's so good in Love Letters as the best friend, she had so much depth and subtlety. It would really play into our expectations.

I love the idea of recasting, and though I still would love to see a noir with Mary Astor and Gloria Grahame inhabiting the same dark dream universe, I can see this is not the movie for them. Maybe Mary as the Inspector? :D

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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby CineMaven » November 29th, 2012, 8:21 am

Yeah...yeah that's it. Depth and subtlety. And ambiguity.

Now for Mary. You're determined to get her in there.

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30's Mary or 40's Mary? You make me laugh. I don't think we can have her as the Inspector. Though she's making a pretty good case for Dora in that first picture. But "Quai..." is a 40's film. And I know you have character actors on the tip of your tongue. Isn't there some supporting actor you want to give a chance? An actor who holds his own ( and holds up every "A" lister he's in a scene with? Sure you can....c'mon. ) Should we throw your boy Joey C. into the mix? He's from Malta. Can you see him open enough to have a bi-racial child? ( Girl, we'll NEVER get it past a 1940's Hollywood censor that that is a GOOD and HUMAN thing. ) Can you see him dogged enough to pursue a murder case? We'd better save your Mary for Noir.

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"I'm your Mother!! And there's NUTHIN' you can do about it!" "Geeez! I'd trade her in for a Ford sedan!"

Gloria and Mary in film noir. I can see it. Mary being in charge of something. Or better yet...the tawdrier the better. Their men are mean. Their fates are doomed. Their victimization complete. And throw Gene ( "POPPY" ) Tierney in there with 'em for good measure. Yeah...I can see that. Jack. ( Ain't I a diabolical casting director? )
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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby JackFavell » November 29th, 2012, 8:52 am

You are a Diabolique for sure!

Yes, I was actually thinking of Mary in Act of Violence when I was having my little daydream of a movie with both her and Gloria. Tawdry. Maybe a remake of Diaboliques? Oh I just want someone to go back in time and put these two women together on screen and never cut away from them. I wish I could go back and write something just for them, not a remake at all but their own project.

My Joey C would be perfect for the role of Inspector Antoine, Maven! As soon as I saw the glimmer in your eye I thought of him. He can play the rogue, the tough guy, the mean street felon, but he also has a reserved, humorous, almost elegant side that was used very few times. In Gilda, he played a character very similar to our dear Inspector. I'll admit, this is where the film lurches a bit for me... because no one could possibly be as wonderful as Louis Jouvet, even my own dear Joe.

What I think what I would like to see in this mental film outing of ours is a slightly darker, maybe more grittily American version of the story. If you got Gloria and Ann and Joe, you've got to take it into subtle territory, because they all do that so well. I'm still thinking Act of Violence territory here, something shadowy, dark and corrupt to the core.

You know, the french version could have been written by Cornell Woolrich, it's so quirky. SO now I am thinking of Paul Lukas, specifically from Deadline at Dawn... he is such a good actor... I don't want to put Joe out of a job though...

How about Maurice? Who on earth for Maurice? I can't help thinking of Boyer, but he is too good looking. He could act the heck out of it though. It needs someone very subtle, because he's really so human and rather stupid. You can't make him a caricature.

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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby CineMaven » November 29th, 2012, 9:32 am

As soon as you said Maurice, I thought of Roman Bohnen:

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But no no no...he's not right. I was trying to think of a schlubby sexy guy...but I can't. Do you think Georgie would work? ( You can say no if you want; I'm not the boss of Imagination. ) How 'bout George Sanders. Georgie could whittle down his glacial persona; George and Ella as Maurice and Dora...

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Maurice : "But Dora, you don't understand...I love Jenny so much, I can't bear to think of her with another man."
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: "Yes, Maurice. I...I understand."


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A casting agent's job is tough. Calleia - Lukas. We've got to pick who's BEST for the part. ( Or whoever brings us Nutella. ) Louis Jouvet IS rather perfect. Perhaps we can give him his script phonetically.

I wish you would write a short dark story based on Gloria and Mary in your mind's eye. I need a short project to film as I'm winding down "Meg Ramsey." Couldn't you just write out a ----- Okay, I know I know. Alright! Sheesh. That's where Alice get's it from.
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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby JackFavell » November 29th, 2012, 9:41 am

Oh you know, I can write reviews, but I am hopelessly unimaginative when it comes to stories. Otherwise, I might take you up on it. I am good at adding bits to already thought out storylines, though.

Ella.... yeah that's good. I adore her! I love George, and I think he could act it, but I think it needs someone schlubbier.

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Re: Henri-Georges Clouzot

Postby CineMaven » November 29th, 2012, 9:50 am

Okay. No stories then. :cry:

Well...it's back to the drawing board for me. Gotta put on my 'schlubby' cap and see who I can come up with.
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