Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: April 11th, 2023, 11:37 am
TikiSoo wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 6:56 amBut it turns into harassment when you attack the person who's opinion differs from yours.Allhallowsday wrote: ↑April 10th, 2023, 11:31 pm Interesting remarks by all. I can see anyone in DYLAN's shoes being a "poser". I may also agree that he is "overrated" but I've known people hate this or hate that. We can all agree to disagree.
Another polarizing figure is Tom Waits-some think he's funny & brilliant, while others see him as a Ken Nordine imitator, poser. I see both sides of that argument but like his work anyway. I'd never pay money to see him, but think his work has some merit.
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EP, you mentioned in the post before the one I quoted that you've reached a stage in your life and also something about speaking freely and not worrying about what people think about you. I reached that stage by my 20's. The sad thing is that most people, if they reach that stage at all, reach it way later in life than they should. This is a bitof digress, but so....EP Millstone wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 11:37 am"Arguing" is subjective. I, for one, enjoy a vigorous and spirited debate.
As for overrated and underrated: Yes we disagree about how one uses these two terms. If I understand your POV, you believe that when a person say, Dan Duryea is underrated they are just saying "I think Dan is great!". When I hear underrated, I hear "I think Dan is great, but the overall consensus is that Dan is not-that-great, and that consensus is misguided, if not downright wrong".EP Millstone wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 11:35 amI somewhat agree. Tone of voice definitely affects how a message is received.jamesjazzguitar wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 10:15 am All depends on how one offers their opinion. E.g., when someone says they don't understand, or is baffled that others don't see it like them, that is an insult. So is saying someone is overrated or underrated. I.e. these are examples of criticism of someone's opinion and not criticisms of the actual artist\musician\actor etc. Both are arrogant statements of: I get it, but you don't . . .
"I get it, but you don't" is arrogant. But, I disagree that saying someone is overrated or underrated is arrogant. I'll leave it at that. We have a difference of opinion (and outlook on people) on the intention/meaning behind "overrated" and "underrated," and, to me, it's not worth the time and energy to argue the matter.
You have genuine insight. However, we are on a forum. We can call it conversation, but it's really correspondence. Ignore junk mail. I for one have liked your music choices. I also can be emphatic about music I love... and dislike...Intrepid37 wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:00 pm Accusing someone of not being able to accept being disagreed with and going on to tell them to "get over it" is just an attempt to start a flame.
There is no other purpose to it. Bullies pull that crap all the time.
Me too. I like and dislike certain songs.Allhallowsday wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:27 pmYou have genuine insight. However, we are on a forum. We can call it conversation, but it's really correspondence. Ignore junk mail. I for one have liked your music choices. I also can be emphatic about music I love... and dislike...Intrepid37 wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:00 pm Accusing someone of not being able to accept being disagreed with and going on to tell them to "get over it" is just an attempt to start a flame.
There is no other purpose to it. Bullies pull that crap all the time.
I don't see where anyone attacked anyone, but I believe this post by you is what started cause EP and I to reply: I think Mr. Zimmerman is a brilliant songwriter/lyricist. How anyone who has heard "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" or "Subterranean Homesick Blues" or "Tight Connection" could disagree baffles me. Each to their own, I guess.Intrepid37 wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:33 pmMe too. I like and dislike certain songs.Allhallowsday wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:27 pmYou have genuine insight. However, we are on a forum. We can call it conversation, but it's really correspondence. Ignore junk mail. I for one have liked your music choices. I also can be emphatic about music I love... and dislike...Intrepid37 wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:00 pm Accusing someone of not being able to accept being disagreed with and going on to tell them to "get over it" is just an attempt to start a flame.
There is no other purpose to it. Bullies pull that crap all the time.
What I don't do is personally attack other members. I leave that to bullies and report it when I see it. Hopefully, administration puts an end to it.
Call it what you want. Smoking can be deadly. I quit decades ago, but still get my medicine from Dr. Justerini and Dr. Brooks. Not exactly healthy in excess. That's all I wanna say about that.Allhallowsday wrote: ↑April 11th, 2023, 2:24 pm BTW - I smoke cheap fake Marlboro lites which I can afford, perhaps something to get over. Smoking is foolish, right?