Comparing Awards Associations

[skimpole]

Here's an interesting idea for a thread. Or at least it interests me and I'm going to run it into the ground. The Academy Awards is often an exercise in rewarding popularity over talent, in conventional wisdom overriding aesthetic judgement, and a host of other vices. So why not compare it to other awards granting institutions?

Let's start with the National Board of Review. And let's look at 1929-1960 first (Before 1932 the winners were given in alphabetical order, with the actual winner appearing first in 1932.)

NBR choices clearly better than the Academy: I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (32) Mr. Deeds goes to Town (36) The Grapes of Wrath
(40) Citizen Kane (41) Monsieur Verdoux (47) The Bicycle Thief (49) The Quiet Man (52)

NBR choices I've never seen: Topaze (33) The True Glory (45)

NBR choices that are clearly worse than the Academy: Confessions of a Nazi Spy (39) The Ox-Bow Incident (43) Sons and Lovers (60)

NBR runner-ups I've never seen: Bulldog Drummond, Paris Bound, The Valiant (29), Holiday, Laughter, The Man from Blankley's, Outward Bound, Street of Chance, Tol'able David (30), Dishonored, The Guardsman, Quick Millions, Rango, Surrender (31)

[jamesjazzguitar]

It appears Skimpole is only comparing the best picture award. Does the National Board of Review provide nominations for best-picture?

I ask became if they did, it would be interesting to compare what films were nominated, as well as which film won.

[kingrat]

Here's an interesting idea for a thread. Or at least it interests me and I'm going to run it into the ground. The Academy Awards is often an exercise in rewarding popularity over talent, in conventional wisdom overriding aesthetic judgement, and a host of other vices. So why not compare it to other awards granting institutions?

Let's start with the National Board of Review. And let's look at 1929-1960 first (Before 1932 the winners were given in alphabetical order, with the actual winner appearing first in 1932.)

NBR choices clearly better than the Academy: I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (32) Mr. Deeds goes to Town (36) The Grapes of Wrath
(40) Citizen Kane (41) Monsieur Verdoux (47) The Bicycle Thief (49) The Quiet Man (52)

NBR choices I've never seen: Topaze (33) The True Glory (45)

NBR choices that are clearly worse than the Academy: Confessions of a Nazi Spy (39) The Ox-Bow Incident (43) Sons and Lovers (60)

NBR runner-ups I've never seen: Bulldog Drummond, Paris Bound, The Valiant (29), Holiday, Laughter, The Man from Blankley's, Outward Bound, Street of Chance, Tol'able David (30), Dishonored, The Guardsman, Quick Millions, Rango, Surrender (31)

I think TCM has shown Bulldog Drummond, and I know it has shown The Guardsman (Molnar comedy with Lunt & Fontanne) and Outward Bound, which is good although the remake, Between Two Worlds, is even better. I would be interested in seeing the 1930 version of Holiday starring Ann Harding to see how it compares with the 1938 Hepburn/Grant/Cukor remake.

[skimpole]

NBR Runner-ups I've never seen: 1932:


As You Desire Me
A Bill of Divorcement
Madame Racketeer
Payment Deferred
Two Seconds

1933:

Berkeley Square
Mama Loves Papa
The Pied Piper
Three-Cornered Moon
Zoo in Budapest

1934:

Crime Without Passion
The First World War
The Lost Patrol
Lot in Sodom
No Greater Glory


1935:

Anna Karenina
The Gilded Lily


1936:

Winterset
The Devil Is a Sissy
Ceiling Zero
Green Pastures

1938:

The Beachcomber
To the Victor
Sing You Sinners
The Edge of the World
South Riding


1939:

U-Boat 29

1940:

The Biscuit Eater


1941:

The Stars Look Down
Tom, Dick and Harry
Road to Zanzibar


1942:

Journey for Margaret
Wake Island
The Male Animal
The Moon and Sixpence
The Pied Piper

1943:

Holy Matrimony
The Moon Is Down
The Next of Kin

1944:

Thunder Rock

1945:

The True Glory
The Last Chance
The Fighting Lady
The Way Ahead

1946:

It Happened at the Inn
The Diary of a Chambermaid


1947:

To Live in Peace
The Overlanders

1949:

The Quiet One
Quartet
Home of the Brave

1950:

The Men
Edge of Doom


1951:

Death of a Salesman
Detective Story
Decision Before Dawn
Fourteen Hours

1952:

5 Fingers
The Thief
Above and Beyond


1953:

Martin Luther


1954:

The Vanishing Prairie
The Unconquered

1955:

A Man Called Peter
Not as a Stranger
The African Lion

1956:

Somebody Up There Likes Me
The Catered Affair

1957:

The Rising of the Moon
Albert Schweitzer
The Enemy Below
A Farewell to Arms

1958:

The Long Hot Summer
Windjammer
The Goddess
Me and the Colonel

1959:

Middle of the Night
The Man Who Understood Women

1960:

The Dark at the Top of the Stairs

[skimpole]

Now it's time for the National Board of Review 1961-1990

NBR Choices clearly better than the Academy: Nashville/Barry Lyndon (75), All the President's Men (76), Days of Heaven (78), Manhattan (79),

NBR Choices clearly worse than the Academy: The Longest Day (62), The Shoes of the Fisherman (68), The Color Purple (85),

NBR Choices I've never seen: Question 7 (61), The Eleanor Roosevelt Story (65), The Turning Point (77)

[skimpole]

NBR Runner-ups I haven't seen 1961-1990:

1961:

The Hoodlum Priest
Summer and Smoke
The Young Doctors

1962:

Requiem for a Heavyweight
A Taste of Honey
War Hunt

1963:

All the Way Home
Lord of the Flies

1964:

The Chalk Garden
The Finest Hours
Four Days in November

1965:

The Agony and the Ecstasy

1966:

John F. Kennedy: Years of Lightning, Day of Drums
It Happened Here
The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming
Shakespeare Wallah

1967:

Ulysses
The Family Way
The Comedians

1969:

Ring of Bright Water
Battle of Britain
Isadora
Support Your Local Sheriff!

1970:

Diary of a Mad Housewife
The Virgin and the Gypsy

1971:

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
The Tales of Beatrix Potter

1972:

Man of La Mancha

1973:

Bang the Drum Slowly
The Last American Hero
The Hireling
The Day of the Dolphin
The Homecoming

1974:

Daisy Miller

1975:

Conduct Unbecoming
Lies My Father Told Me
The Day of the Locust

1976:

The Last Tycoon
Silent Movie

1977:

The Picture Show Man

1978:

Movie Movie
Pretty Baby

1979:

Yanks
The Europeans
North Dallas Forty

1980:

My Bodyguard
Resurrection

1981:

Stevie
Heartland
Ticket to Heaven

1982:

An Officer and a Gentleman
Moonlighting
The Chosen

1983:

Betrayal
Educating Rita
Tender Mercies
Cross Creek

1984:

Mass Appeal
Country
Careful, He Might Hear You

1985:

The Shooting Party
Dreamchild

1986:

My Beautiful Laundrette
Round Midnight

1987:

Gaby: A True Story
Cry Freedom

1988:

Tucker: The Man and His Dream
Gorillas in the Mist

1989:

The Fabulous Baker Boys

1990:

Hamlet

[skimpole]

And now 1991-2021 for the National Board of Review:

NBR Choices clearly better than the Academy: Pulp Fiction (94 Forrest Gump still won anyway), Sense and Sensibility (95), L.A. Confidential (97), Good Night, and Good Luck (05, not a lot better to be fair), The Social Network (10), Hugo (11), A Most Violent Year (14), Mad Max: Fury Road (15), The Post (17), Licorice Pizza (21)

NBR Choices clearly worse than the Academy: Shine (96), The Hours (02, not a lot worse to be fair),

NBR Choices I've never seen: Quills (00),

[skimpole]

NBR runner-ups I haven't seen 1991-2021:

1991:

Grand Canyon
Homicide
Rambling Rose
Frankie and Johnny
Jungle Fever

1992:

Peter's Friends

1993:

Shadowlands


1994:

Nobody's Fool
Tom & Viv

1995:

Carrington
The American President
Smoke

1996:

Sling Blade

1998:

Dancing at Lughnasa

1999:

Cradle Will Rock
Tumbleweeds

2000:

Croupier

2001:

Monster's Ball
The Pledge

2003:

The Station Agent
House of Sand and Fog

2005:

Memoirs of a Geisha
Walk the Line

2006:

Blood Diamond
The Devil Wears Prada
Flags of Our Fathers
The History Boys
Notes on a Scandal
The Painted Veil

2007:

The Bourne Ultimatum
The Bucket List
The Kite Runner
Lars and the Real Girl

2008:

Defiance
Gran Torino

2009:

Invictus
The Messenger

2010:

Hereafter

2011:

The Ides of March

2012:

The Perks of Being a Wallflower
Promised Land


2013:

Lone Survivor
Prisoners
Saving Mr. Banks
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty


2014:

Fury
Unbroken

2015:

Creed
Straight Outta Compton

2016:

Patriots Day

2017:

Downsizing

2019:

Dolemite Is My Name

2020:

The Midnight Sky


2021:

The Last Duel

[ziggy6708a]

FYI....

[skimpole]

Now it's time for the New York Film Critic Circle, which started giving out awards in 1936. Let's look at 1935-1964 first:

NYFCC Choices clearly better than the Academy: Mr. Deeds Goes to Town (36), The Grapes of Wrath (40), Citizen Kane (41) High Noon (52),

NYFCC Choices clearly worse than the Academy: Watch on the Rhine (43),

NYFCC Choices I've never seen: Anna Karenina (35-Actress), The Senator was Indiscreet (47-Actor), I see a Dark Stranger (47-Actress), The Sound Barrier (52-Actor), Come Back Little Sheba (52 Actress), Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison (57-Actress)

[skimpole]

Now let's look at the New York Film Critic Circle's choices for 1965-1994

NYFCC Choices clearly better than the Academy: Nashville (75), All the President's Men (76), Reds (81), Goodfellas (90), Quiz Show (94)

NYFCC Choices clearly worse than the Academy: Darling (65), The Lion in Winter (68), Amarcord (74)

NYFCC Choices I've never seen: Stevie (81-Actress), Crimes of the Heart (86-Actress), Ironweed (87-Actor), Nobody's Fool, The Last Seduction (94-Actor, Actress)

[skimpole]

Now let's look at the New York Film Critic Circle's choices for 1995-2021

NYFCC Choices clearly better than the Academy: Leaving Las Vegas (95), LA Confidential (97), Topsy-Turvy (99), Mulholland Drive (01), The Social Network (10), Carol (15), Roma (18), Drive my Car (21)

NYFCC Choices clearly worse than the Academy: American Hustle (13),

[skimpole]

Now let's look at the Golden Globes, which for most of its existence, has divided the awards into two: Drama and Musical/Comedy. Twice as many chances to get it right, or more to get it wrong? Let's find out. Here's part one: 1944-1970

GG choices clearly better than the Academy: Sunset Blvd. (50),

GG choices clearly worse than the Academy: The Song of Bernadette (43), The Robe (53), Anne of the Thousand Days (69), Love Story (70)

From 1956 to 1968 every Oscar Best Picture winner won one of the Golden Globe awards.

[Sue Sue Applegate]

skimpole, Heaven Knows, Mister Allison with Robert Mitchum and Deborah Kerr is an exciting film and has such beautiful cinematography. Since you’ve never seen it, I recommend you give it a chance. Huston directed the film, wrote the screenplay along with John Lee Mahin, and Oswald Morris was the cinematographer.
Plus some hilarious backstories.

[skimpole]

Nominees and winners not seen by me 1944-1970:

1950

Three Little Words (winner actor)
Louisa (nominee Actress)

1951

On the Riviera (winner Actor)
The Blue Veil (winner Actress)
Too Young to Kiss (winner Actress)

1952

With a Song in my Heart (winner)
Hans Christian Anderson
Stars and Stripes Forever
The Happy Time
The Thief

1953

Call me Madam (winner Actress)

1956

The Rainmaker
Wild is the Wind
The Opposite Sex
The Solid Gold Cadillac
The Teahouse of the August Moon
Bundle of Joy (nominee Actress)

1957

Les Girls (winner)
Don't Go Near the Water
My Man Godfrey (nominee Actor)
This could be the night (nominee Actress)

1958

Bell, Book and Candle
Indiscreet
Me and the Colonel
The Perfect Furlough
Teacher's Pet (nominee Actor)
Damn Yankees
The Tunnel of Love (nominee Actress)

1959

But not for Me
Operation Petticoat
Who was that Lady
Porgy and Bess (winner)
The Five Pennies
Li'l Abner
A Private's Affair
Say one for Me
Career (winner Actor)
Middle of the Night (nominee Actor)
Ask any Girl (nominee Actress)

1960

The Grass is Greener
It Started in Naples
Song without End (winner)
Pepe
Midnight Lace (nominee Actress)
The World of Suzie Wong (nominee Actress)

1961

A Majority of One (winner)
The Parent Trap
Flower Drum Song
A Raisin in the Sun (nominee Actor)
The Pleasure of his Company (nominee Actor)
Bachelor in Paradise (nominee Actor)

1962

That Touch of Mink (winner)
The Best of Enemies
Boys' Night Out
If a Man Answers
Period of Adjustment
Billy Rose's Jumbo
Girls! Girls! Girls!
Gypsy
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm
Freud: the Secret Passion
Hemingway's Adventures as a Young Man
Lisa
The Pigeon that took Rome (nominee Actor)
Mr. Hobbs takes a Vacation (nominee Actor)
Phaedra (nominee Actress)


1963

A Ticklish Affair
Under the Yum Yum Tree
The Caretakers
The Ugly American (nominee Actor)
To bed or not to bed (winner Actor)
The Wheeler Deelers (nominee Actor)
Come blow your horn (nominee Actor)
Toys in the Attic (nominee Actress)
The Paper Man (nominee Actress)
The Conjugal Bed (nominee Actress)
Move over Darling (nominee Actress)
A New Kind of Love (nominee Actress)

1964

Dear Heart
Rios Conchos (nominee Actor)
Circus World (nominee Actress)


1965

The Agony and the Ectasy (nominee Actor)
Boeing Boeing (nominee Actor)

1966

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Gambit
Not with my Wife, you Don't
The Spy with a Cold Nose (nominee Actor)
This Property is Condemned (nominee Actress)

1967

L'immorale (nominee Actor)
The Fox (nominee Actress)
Woman Times Seven (nominee Actress)


1968

Finian's Rainbow
Yours Mine and Ours
The Killing of Sister George (nominee Actress)
Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell (nominee Actress)

1969

The Secret of Santa Vittoria (Winner)
Goodbye Columbus
Paint your Wagon
Popi (nominee Actor)
John and Mary (nominee Actor)
The Reivers (nominee Actor)
Generation (nominee Actress)
Sweet Charity (nominee Actress)

1970

Diary of a Mad Housewife
Lovers and other Strangers
Scrooge
The out of Towners (nominee Actor)
Puzzle of a Downfall Child (nominee Actress)
Promise at Dawn (nominee Actress)
Something for Everyone (nominee Actress)
The Owl and the Pussycat (nominee Actress)